You can try playing around with that. I feel it’s problematic to lock it as most trainers do. Versandkosten: ab 3,95 € Details. Zwift Anmeldung und Test: Mit Zwift kannst du auf deinem Computer/MAC und sogar auf dem iPad und iPhone und den aktuellen Android-Smartphones Spaß haben. Has anyone a clue why the result looks best with the manufacturer’s app used? Negativ ist, dass es den Elite Direto XR minderwertig erscheinen lässt. So nothing further to install or dork with. The issues you describe are usual for the high power trainers. As noted, it has the cassette on it, and it also has all the legs pre-connected. Still, I didn’t think the road-feel aspect was as nailed on the Flux 2 as the XR. There’s no better test of that than 30×30 repeats (30-seconds at a high resistance, followed by 30-seconds at an easy resistance). Do we know that for sure? What about the accuracy of the wattage? Moderators: Elite Admin M, Elite Admin S. 176 posts ... (yet to try on the Elite app). Of course, it’s not the same feel as you’d see with a KICKR or Tacx NEO or Saris H3, but those are all more expensive trainers. Many thx in advance Jan. The 11spd cassette won’t work with 10 speed chain, it is too thick. Most times things like that are tuned specifically to the weight of the flywheel, so with the change in the flywheel weight, my bet is that it throws off the algorithms. Das Foto zeigt einen mann der auf seinem Mountainbike über Zwift ein Intervalltraining absolviert. Yup, 1″ [25mm] is about 1.5* up and 2″ [50mm] is about 3.0* up. B) Power Responsiveness: How quickly can it achieve a given set point (e.g. Has their been any update from Elite about the status of their testing to see if it’s possible to update the Direto X (and Direto I hope) firmware with the new algorithm? Thankfully, that’s not the case here. Said differently: Peak numbers in this competition don’t matter. These are all crazy close together, especially considering how quickly and dramatically the power is shifting. Most notable of those options is what Elite calls Power Meter Link (PML). If you use Elite’s own software, MyETraining, or the Garmin/Wahoo head unit to run the intervals, you will get the full delay. Ride experience: Direct-drive trainers offer a better all-around indoor experience compared to wheel-on models. Once I switched to the H3 I had wished I had gotten the Kickr way back when…. Neither Elite or Zwift seem able to help me. And technically, there are two apps here. Der Direto XR ist die bereits dritte Auflage des Top-Smarttrainers von Elite. No regrets. But it’s also not silent. Thank you. At one point, it must have gone up to near max resistance without any indication it would, as it felt like the chain would break before the cranks would turn. A change from 1 to 2% grade seems a lot higher than it should be but the trainer is usable now. The actual apps don’t typically much matter, but rather the use cases are different. Hi Erschienen: November 2019; Details zum Test; ohne Endnote. Um direkt loszulegen, musst du lediglich die Beine ausklappen und das Gerät mit dem 2,5 Meter langem Stromkabel an das Stromnetz anschließen. So ERG mode is key. Das ist eine satte Steigerung von mehr als 20 Prozent. Have you tried on different devices? This week I’ll ship it back to my LBS and get a new one. Der Elite Direto XR liegt preislich zwischen dem günstigeren Suito und dem Spitzenmodell Drivo II. I’d like to record the turbo and power data on my Garmin Edge 830 as well. On the attached picture, you see the test done by a friend of mine on Kickr Core and by me on the Direto XR. First is how quickly it responds to the commands of the application. Still, it’s pretty darn quiet. 2) wheel size : I know that this is a very tricky topic. And being awesome is what it’s all about! So that’s another 3-6w give or take. Whereas in the case of TrainerRoad I used it in a structured workout mode (ERG mode). However, I typically don’t worry too much about the rear cassette. Ray you might want to double-check the mandatory wall wart picture *before* you let that thing roam free in the DCR power brick sanctuary, never to be found again. Yes, the resistance did increase, but your speed did not. You'll support the site, and get ad-free DCR! By going near 50 km/h, the spin down actually works…. While the box tells you to point it upwards, it’s actually going to slide out from the side once you remove the top, which, works exceedingly well. I suppose levelness on a trainer is a minor consideration in the larger scheme of things, but I found out the hard way it makes a BIG difference if you mess with saddle position on the trainer and later realize something isn’t quite right on a long road ride. I have installed my 12spd MTB on a 8spd cassette on my trainer and it works fine. Kassette und Riser-Block im Lieferumfang enthalten. Peter. Elite this week introduces the Direto XR smart trainer as their top model indoor cycle trainer. They work just fine. But I decided to hold whatever the trainer threw at me – after 5sec, 1135W was the maximum I could do before my legs died. What app are you using to control it? It works for many, but I and others find that the level setup leads to more pressure on the hands and arms. This $10 case fixes that, it's a silicone strap that makes it easy to grab, but also has a strap to easily place on the edge of your handlebars. . In these cases the Direto XR takes a long time as well to adapt to target power. I opened a ticket with Elite. Unser Test liefert überraschende Ergebnisse. And looking forward to read how the Tuo actually compares to a toaster . Yeah, something is clearly wrong there, but it’s not super clear what is wrong. Enjoy, and thanks for stopping by! And it feels good, but I’m not sure it’s appreciably different enough that most people be able to notice unless the two were side by side. You’ll see either a calibration prompt in the app (like TrainerRoad), or a small wrench or such in the settings (like Zwift). Increase Moment of Inertia 26%. I’m on the verge of selling the Direto for a H3 because ERG mode is so… marginal. Je l’annonçais la semaine dernière suite à une fuite, Elite était sur le point de livrer une nouvelle version de son home-trainer best-seller : le Direto X. L’annonce est officielle depuis ce matin : le Direto X est remplacé par le Direto XR.. Ce nouveau modèle affiche des caractéristiques de modèles hauts de gamme comme le Tacx Neo et le Wahoo Kickr. Or I just got a “Monday” product…. Where it can matter though is at low-speed high wattage climbs up those 12% or beyond ascents. No worries, not a normal person problem. Of course, that added power comes at a slight increase in price – now $949, but it now includes the cassette pre-installed, saving you money there. But is there a way to pair my Garmin hrm-tri to the Direto XR and then pass the heart rate to Zwift by using the Direto XR as an Ant+ to Bluetooth conversion? Then, I come here and write about my adventures. Crédit Elite. The cassette included for the direto xr is 11 speed (11-28). I just got this trainer and so far, it’s not a good experience. Try turn every bluetooth off (HR strap, watch, airpods etc), and pair the Elite Direto XR alone to your device. I’d rather the darn trainer be accurate to begin with. I’m not too bothered about if the watts are correct or not as long as they are not drastically too low . All it does is effectively change the gears you have available. Ciao In any case, it’s basically identical – within 4-8w @ 450w, which is what I’d expect for slight differences in drivetrain. I will change the cassette if it create to much of a problem. Cykelmagneten. Actually, changing from Level to ERG is what I use as a workaround to get the trainer going. And down below there’s the quick release skewer, and various freebies. Bill… which one did you buy? My trainer will also be used in a cool environment, so I’ll find out soon how it deals with that as well. Final price difference is around $100 (Core is cheaper). But one room away is acceptable. I’ve been using it with The Sufferfest for about 2 weeks now and overall I’m quite pleased. The Elite Direto XR continues the lineage of the Direto trainer brand, but significantly ramps up the capabilities of the trainer. My high front axle trick can lead to a similar shift, and works to relieve pressure on many rides I have shared this trick. They all should use the same Bluetooth protocol to transmit commands to the unit. Still, much of the road-like feel is driven by the flywheel, and be it physical or virtual, flywheel sizes tend to be measured in weight. It's quiet and reliable, and it beats most of its direct competitors on price too. Which one would you pick? It changes resistance uphill/downhill in Zwift so that works. I've got three of these $12 fans floating around the DCR Cave, and I frequently use them on rides. In many European countries when they say ‘Race’ they mean ‘Road Bikes’ (because, logically, most other bikes go on the road like commuter bikes). Ray, is the difference to Gen1 Direto noticeable enough to justify an upgrade? So in reality it’s 5.1kg (not 4.5kg as originally announced), thus making it 21.5% higher than the Direto X. It is a neat feature to be able to dial it back. If you set it to 10, your power data should be more stable. Before we dive into all the usual review stuff, let’s just do a super quick recap of what’s changed between the Elite Direto X, and the newer Direto XR. I used the same wording I had for that table on my Direto X review, so it carried over. As you probably know, apps like Zwift, TrainerRoad, SufferFest, Rouvy, Kinomap, and many more all support most of these industry standards, making it easy to use whatever app you’d like. That’s just the one I use, and I use it only because 13 or so years ago when I got into cycling, that’s what someone first recommended. If they’re in the large ring, they’re going to see more fluctuations. Direktes Feedback der Widerstandseinheit. It sounds like the XR is “good” but that the H3 is still better. Nach den kostenlosen 12 Monaten zahlt man für die Plattform 19,95 € pro Jahr. – Trainer is now fully assembled out of box (no attaching legs or cassette anymore) Yes, you can use the Direto XR even without power cord and work a single-level mode. I know Zwift doesn’t support ant+ for the hrm-tri. And as for sound? And I spend most of my time in TrainerRoad while watching either BikeTheWorld YouTube videos or Zwift. To get a new direct drive turbo trainer and have found the elite suito for £580 or the elite drivo 1 for £600. Though also, historically speaking they didn’t have an easy way to issue those till the Upgrado app last year. I believe this is my last suggestion. If you're shopping for the Elite Direto XR or any other accessory items, please consider using the affiliate links below! Das Preis-Leistungsverhältnis ist erstklassig. I assume the Sterzo is designed to level the bike when used with an Elite model trainer and 700c wheel. cepooo 31.10.2020 30 fotografií Cestna Cyklistika Sezona 2020 Trenazer Elite Test Vybava. My Direto XR does not work in ERG mode. Your email address will not be published. My colleagues will reach out asap to fix it out. Interesting but aren’t you essentially riding long hours with your saddle nose up if you use a tall riser? on social network i can see some guys who are reportin about big power fluctuations during ERG mode (zwift and elite app) that keep the trainer in a constant state of “more power, reduce power’. What am I gaining by getting the Direto XR over Suito in terms of functionality (beyond dry stats which are available everywhere). Découvrez le nouveau home trainer de Elite, le Direto XR. There’s a handful of minor cadence quirks in occasional spots, but as you can see from the chart above – it’s only in certain ride situations and is limited to a second or two. Der XR ist ein Update des direktangetriebenen Smart Trainers Direto X von Elite, der auf dem Erfolg des ursprünglichen Direto aufbaut. For me I think the key for calibrate (through zwift) was to cycle faster than the speed Zwift suggested. Let’s get this puppy unboxed. With all those things covered, let’s get into a look at how accurate the trainer is. In the fit file later on I got a constant speed. I am thorn between this one and the Core, I was considering the Core too but I think the Direto XR is more future proof and I have better Elite support in my area. For $8, this solves that problem. Tks A few weeks ago I received a BNIB Direto XR in replacement of my Direto X that was irreparable. Lowering the trainer setpoint does not diminish the hills but essentially lowers the speed and gives more gearing options. Typically one uses the small ring in front and one of the bigger ones of the cassette. So in reality it’s 5.1KG (not 4.5KG), thus making it 21.5% higher that the Direto X. Wanna save some cash and support the site? In that case, the company claims up to 2,300w of resistance at 40KPH. There’s a thread on the Elite forums about this. I’ve had that thing siting in a box since last fall waiting for the Tuo…finally found a use for it! Same goes for whatever little I had left in the tank (basically, nothing) for a sprint to the finish: Cadence meanwhile, is mostly very good. Here’s a bunch of random trip reports and daily trip-logs that I’ve put together and posted. In this mode, no matter what gearing you use, the trainer will simply stay at 220w (or whatever you set it to). Oh, that said, here’s a before/after of the folding legs, in case you do need to fold it up and put it away somewhere: If you need to move it around, it’s got a handle atop it, so it’s pretty simple that way: Also, it’s not that heavy. I’ve read pretty much every review of yours for direct drive smart trainers including the comments. It’s absolutely making it easier because most humans pedal bikes easier and more efficiently at a 80-100rpm cadence than a 50-60rpm one. I also just put together my complete ‘Gear I Use’ equipment list, from swim to bike to run and everything in between (plus a few extra things). The good, the bad, and the ugly. Foto zeigt das geringe Packmaß des Elite Rollentrainer Direto XR im Vergleich. Elite behauptet, dass der interne Leistungsmesser auf +/- 1,5 Prozent genau ist und dass er bis zu 220 Datenpunkte pro Pedaltritt messen kann. B. Very small amounts, largely within the accuracy claims of the various units. So ist die maximale Wattzahl neu bei 2300 statt wie vorher 2100. Which is too bad b/c I do actually like my Direto apart from the ERG mode issue. It’s as simple as that. Now we are almost sure it’s ready by that date. Narrator: This is the moment that AW finds out what 15% hills actually feel like Is this a very significant difference? At bottom around 80watts are quite close together. The avg is misleading…filled with 10%+ ramps and flattish hairpins. And about starting the workout, I start pedaling before I start the workout. I haven’t fully figured out the pattern there, but it wasn’t something I even noticed while riding – only afterwards looking at the charts. People have explained this a million times. Doing so means simulating a slight downhill ride. I calibrate everything, set offset. Even more, if you use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with coupon code DCRAINMAKER, first time users save 15% on applicable products! Essentially it’s a speed thing. Allerdings fehlt ihm 1 % um die simulierte Steigung des Tacx Neo 2T zu erreichen. Got all that? I ended up having to move it out of the way. If you wish to record your trainer’s data on your Garmin while you’re on Zwift, you need to set up your trainer as speed&cadence sensor and as power sensor on your Garmin.

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